Big Bad Billy is Sweet William Now!

[MisterS]

According to B,B & CSM 3, but not for long apparently:(

For those who don't get the joke, here's a link:

http://youtu.be/9RPx6A3gKiA

[Simon Rogerson]

Clearly you haven't seen 59 yet. Chilling.

[MisterS]

I was refering to the Butcher Mini.

[Simon Rogerson]

Oh yeh, and I did get that. We're getting redeemed Butcher in the mini, but over in The Boys we see Butcher at his darkest this month.

[blarneycock]

I just read Butcher 3, and I must say, its probably one of the best single issues so far! unbelievable bastards abound! That rendition of Butcher senior kakking out his family is one of the most powerful scenes in the series thus far. Becky Butcher is amazing too, but I fear for all of them, especially sweet Lenny... Havnae read 59 yet, so please dinnae spoil it for me...

cheers
-from the heart of darkness....

[Simon Rogerson]

Agree with you there, Mr McCock! :D

[saidestroyer]

HOLY FORNICATING POO!!!

So... Butcher didn't lie to Hughie when he told him what happened to Becky. Son of a bitch.

[Kamakazi]

#4 wasn't bad, but it did underscore how Ennis falls completely apart whenever he tries to write normal people. He's great at writing douchebags, but he can't sustain any sort of credibility when writing someone like Becky. Why the hell would she try to cover up being raped? She was never shown to be weak or stupid.

I keep hoping there's more to the story- like maybe Homelander really didn't rape her. Because if there's not, her entire character makes absolutely no sense.

[mmc1uk]

Why the hell would she try to cover up being raped? She was never shown to be weak or stupid.

I keep hoping there's more to the story- like maybe Homelander really didn't rape her. Because if there's not, her entire character makes absolutely no sense.

Some women would cover it up to save their husband from himself. I agree that Becky is not stupid but, shes definatley got Billy's number and if she told him, she would know he'd go after the rapist and would likely end up dead.

I think your on to something though, because the whole rape thing was kept from us in a way that makes me think theres a twist about that coming later. I reckon Mallory will fill billy in all about it.

I kept wondering how there was a connection to the homelander for raping Becky based on what we have read and, the only thing i could link any reason to draw his attention to her is he heard Billy and Becky slagging off the supes on the beach with his super hearing (he does have super hearing doesnt he? ) and thought to himself im having her later. other than that im stumped on this.

[Simon Rogerson]

Kamakazi I disagree with your assessment of Ennis' ability to write normal people. When I recall his Belfast segments of Hellblazer, I think he's probably one of the best in the business. If he has a weakness, it's in characterising normal American life. IMO, Becky's intelligence and background in social work make it all the more brutally ironic that she should choose to cover up the rape. Sadly, there are many, many precedents for inteligent women choosing to cover up their own rapes. It is a complex, heartbreaking issue.

Also, as the previous poster points out, Becky is all too aware of Butcher's temper and inclination to violence. Had she told him there and then, it would have practically ensured his death. I think we'll maybe see this in her own writing when Butcher discovers her diaries.

The scene with the lazer-eyes foetus... chilling stuff. I say good issue, good mini so far.

[MisterS]

#I keep hoping there's more to the story- like maybe Homelander really didn't rape her.

I think he did, but in #49, while he was doing his impression of Gollum, he claimed he didn't remember, which makes me wonder if Homie is more of a 'Manchurian candidate' for Vought? It would certainly explain his behavior towards Vought Guy, particularly in Herogasm.



*Possible Spoilers for Preacher*






On another subject, has anyone noticed a paralell between Billy and the Saint of Killers? Both were ex military who led troubled lives after they served. After finding love, they were able to reform, only to revert to their old ways of losing their respecive loves through tragedy.

Of course with the Saint (and possibly Butcher) there was more to this 'tragedy' than meets the eye.

[Sir Gibby]

4 was batshit. From the get-go of the series we've known how she died. To see it in action, sweet Jesus.

Now I want to ask after two things. If I remember correctly, Mallory stated Homelander raped Becky when Hughie went to visit. Gotcha. I'm relieved that we don't see that on paper, but I am curious if that's in fact what happened.

Other thing, remember back to the Grassy Knoll, the St Paddy's Day issue? Maybe I'm botching this, but Hughie asks Butcher about a woman, consenting to a V injection directly to a fetus. While this was--if I remember right--Homelander's origin, Butcher replies with a look that gets Hughie to drop the subject real quick.

See I was always a bit confused by that reaction. Why would Butcher be upset over this unless it had to do with Becky? I may be making nothing out of something, but what if she volunteered for a V injection that evening instead of being raped?

I mean, a stretch absolutely. But I wonder if the two are connected, or maybe I just ain't tracking everything proper. It's still awful (and well executed by the team) what happened to Becky. But--silver lining to all of this--Darick is back on art. Count your blessings, right?

[MisterS]

I have a theory on Rebecca and her 'rape' by Homie.
According to Dr. Peculiar's notes in 58, Homelander mentioned that he and Black Noir have a similar build. Is it possible that BN is a clone of Homie? That would explain why Homie doesn't remember what he did in the photos, raping Butcher's wife, and, possibly, how BN survived that fall on 9/11!

Any thoughts?

[saidestroyer]

I have a theory on Rebecca and her 'rape' by Homie.
According to Dr. Peculiar's notes in 58, Homelander mentioned that he and Black Noir have a similar build. Is it possible that BN is a clone of Homie? That would explain why Homie doesn't remember what he did in the photos, raping Butcher's wife, and, possibly, how BN survived that fall on 9/11!

Any thoughts?

I don't think so. If he's a clone (I agree with that), he's a braindead one. I remember QM refering to him as a "fucking zombie" or something to that effect, in the transcrips Hughie stole.

I think it probably went down as somebody said before in this thread: Homelander heard Butcher and Becky badmouthing supes, and thought "Golly gee! Another chance to do something horrible to a completely inocent person! Yipeee-wheee!"

[Dustin]

I keep hoping there's more to the story- like maybe Homelander really didn't rape her. Because if there's not, her entire character makes absolutely no sense.

Really? You've never heard the statistics about how many rapes go unreported? And can you honestly assume most of those women are weak and stupid? I had been looking into where the idea in certain parts of the fandom that BN is a HL clone formed, and it looks like this is one of them. But seriously, assuming you shed your ironic persona for this post, the simplest explanation is the most obvious. That and many here were spot on when they predicted she didn't tell Billy because he would go off and get killed.

[Dustin]

See I was always a bit confused by that reaction. Why would Butcher be upset over this unless it had to do with Becky? I may be making nothing out of something, but what if she volunteered for a V injection that evening instead of being raped?


Or maybe it was just because Hughie was dredging up a painful subject.